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We as artists spend our lives studying colour and form but we seem to forget one thing, where will the art go? being an online presence/ nuisance, I have seen hundreds if not thousands of images. Some good, some bad, some abysmal, but honestly there are very few I would consider buying. This is not because the artist does not have talent but because an issue arises in my mind. I have nowhere to put that piece.

To see what I mean open a new window in your web browser and bring up your portfolio.
I want you to honestly answer two questions:
Would I buy any of the works in my portfolio?
Where would I put the pieces? (as in which room, and where in that room)

I am as guilty as anyone else in creating unsellable art. In fact the only reason I have sold 1 fridge magnet is because my mother bought it off me. I feel honesty is important here as most of us are in the same boat. We all love art and ultimately want to make a living out of art and by no means am I saying you will never sell your work so give up now. I am merely trying to spawn a new way of thinking and to do that I must establish some hard truths.

Some of you are thinking "But I am not planning on selling to the public. I am going to be a (book illustrator, concept artist, etc). Well you may not be selling directly to the public but you must keep in mind THE PUBLIC WILL ULTIMATLY BE BUYING the finished product, be it a book or a video game.

As an artist we must get in the habit of looking outside the canvas and visualise the surrounding environment. If you look at traditional artists like Van Gogh his works would fit in most houses and still look good without looking out of place and thus HIS WORK SELLS! Picasso would fit in trendy modern houses and still add a contemporary touch of class to the room. Even our consumable have been designed to be sold as art. Take Coke a Cola. would you be embarrassed to leave a can on the table? No because the design looks classy and yet it can still control your eye sight. Cola looks good where ever you put it (unless you spill it on your trousers).
In my blogs I will set an assignment for myself which you are welcome to join in on. The assignments are aimed at creating a sellable portfolio of work.

Assignment 1:

I assume you all have drinks of something in your house (be it beer, tea, water, etc) Presumably you set your drinks on a table when you are not drinking them. Well look at that table. Observe the colour, shape and size. Now, anyone who has produced a print on this site will know that you can have a variety of products printed.

For this Assignment I am going to produce a coaster for print. The design must look good on my homes coffee table.

Things to take into account:
-colour theory- what will go with the outside of the design (the table)
- shape
-placement of the coasters
- mood - what mood do I want to give the table (calming?)

If you are also participating in the assignment please tell me as I would love to see what you come up with.

All the best, and here's to a new way of thinking about our art.
Phoenicorn
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*liransz Mar 5, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
hi! i found your text very interesting, i think its not fair to compare ilustration/decoration with brand/packaging, as they dont share the same "mission", but i understand your point. sometimes is so necesary to do something "usefull" for the people, not just making illustrations for fun, at least when you start consider your art is becoming good...
as alwys hope my english is at least understandable ^^

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*The-Phoenicorn Mar 5, 2010  Professional General Artist
your English is fine. I guess the other point I was trying to make was the context of the image. Book covers have to stand out so if the current trend is mainly green images go for a mainly red image to stand out. Also if you are not in the industry but want to break in, if you can prove you can create images that sell this could lead to greater things. I also wanted to create some sort of debate.
Thanks for the reply

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*liransz Mar 9, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
i was talking bout this with my co-workers this days, and its true that if you arae at that point, when you feel you have inprove your art (at least enough for the moment, theres always things to get better :P)and you need to get some recognition, the best way its doing something usefull, posters, tshirts or whatever...
the hard part its when you are on your 8 hrs work, to get the time to do THE product, that will pop you up...
most of the new design studios got recoognition with a great advertizing, not spending lot of money but making something original, and moving this piece around, clients came after that.

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*The-Phoenicorn Mar 9, 2010  Professional General Artist
Yeah but on the other hand if you are building a portfolio you may as well try to make abit of cash from it. If you get lucky and someone buys a print you can bring that up in interviews for university or even future job interviews.
Another point I was trying to get across in this piece is that art doesn't just stop at the end of your canvas (or in concept art terms, character)If we as artists take into account what the setting of our work we can add another dimension to our work and hopefully rise above our competition.
O man I love a good debate.

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*liransz Mar 9, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
i get your point and agree.
but
i finish "university" (like this couse its another degree i dont know in english, but is "profesional designer"...wathever), and i dont know how jobs works in the rest of the world, but at least in spain, for getting a good job, and then be respected by your boss (by good job means something in design or ilustration, by respect i mean a decent pay, not even good, and not been treated like a "slave") is not easy, for not saying impossible. it doesnt matter how good you are or how many illustration you have sold in internet. you need to be famous (much famous), to be respected as a professional.
i been thru gaming industry last 3 years, and everything is disapointing.
now: to get a good job you need to promote your art. to promote your art you need time, lot of time on improving your skills, making portfolio and try to sell something on the web, but in the meanwhile you are all day working, then you have no time. the point is i dont feel that in real life, selling one print will be usefull, you need to do more than that to stand out...

wow... lots of words... so sorry

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*The-Phoenicorn Mar 9, 2010  Professional General Artist
You see there's where I am different from you. I have yet to start university so I suppose I am looking through novices eyes. I guess if you have got the time it is worth thinking about selling prints but it is not a essential. Also If you are proud of your work you may as well make it a print on DA (where possible) in the chance that someone may see your work and buy it. It would be ashame to have a great portfolio just sitting around when there is a chance even without marketing that it could make some money.
If you aren't willing to sell copies of it should it be in your portfolio?

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*liransz Mar 9, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
well here are two points.
one and the most importat i think, its to realice, when you are a novice and you are still on learning stage, the real importance of improve your work as fast as you can, and never forget, art is not what its used to be. its a bussines. so you need to get the most of your "not working time" to learn learn learn, because later on, you find that you have a lot of bills, and this is not much compatible with getting better and practice and you need to learn also some markeing issues, that are necessary.
at least in my case, and someone else i know around, selling one or two stuff on DA or whatever, its more to prove that your work is not that bad. i mean to test the quality of your portfolio.
its quite good to get good feedback, lovely comments, and some selling but its better to try to be published in a book or magazine. to be "famous", i dont know if i making my point clear.... thats will make your carrer works

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*The-Phoenicorn Mar 9, 2010  Professional General Artist
yeah I get it. thanks for the input

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I think this is quite a thoughtful post. I wanted to give a reply, but it ended up too long, so I wrote a blog post on it instead [link] , do tell me what you think if you can.:)

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*The-Phoenicorn Feb 20, 2010  Professional General Artist
Commented and I think everyone who read my article should read your responce.

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